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Co-chair Joyce on why Cannabis Caucus hasn't met yet: “Why run our heads into the wall?"
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Co-chair Joyce on why Cannabis Caucus hasn't met yet: “Why run our heads into the wall?"

Ep. 108 — Rep. Dave Joyce (3-11-2025)
Congressional Cannabis Caucus Co-chair Rep. David Joyce speaks with reporter just off floor of the US House of Representatives. Photo: Matt Laslo

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Rep. Dave Joyce (R-OH) — Co-chair, Congressional Cannabis Caucus

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Ask a Pol asks:

What’s this we hear that the Congressional Cannabis Caucus hasn’t even met yet three months into this new Congress?

Key Joyce:

“No. We haven’t,” Rep. Dave Joyce exclusively tells Ask a Pol. “Well, let’s face it, what are going to put on the table at the moment? … Why run our heads into the wall, right?”

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“Say no to marijuana!” Rep. Andy Harris says as Joyce and Laslo are talking on the Capitol steps.

“You want a toke?” Ask a Pol founder Matt Laslo asks Harris.

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Ask a Pol mentions Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer…

“He had [SAFER Banking Act] for like two years on his f*cking desk and didn’t do anything,” Joyce tells us.

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Below find a rough transcript of Ask a Pol’s exclusive interview with Rep. Dave Joyce (R-OH), slightly edited for clarity.

ICYMI — Joyce interview first sold to Marijuana Moment*

*Ask a Pol founder Matt Laslo runs regionally-focused national wire service, The LCB.

TRANSCRIPT: Rep. Dave Joyce

SCENE: Ahead of the House vote to keep the US government funded through the fall, Ask a Pol’s Matt Laslo ran into Rep. Dave Joyce as he was making his way to the house floor to vote.

Matt Laslo: “Hey, what is this I hear that the Cannabis Caucus hasn’t even met yet this Congress?”

Dave Joyce: “No. We haven’t.”

What should we ask Congress this week?

ML: “Why not?”

DJ: “Well, let’s face it, what are going to put on the table at the moment? We’re getting this,* then we got till we get reconciliation done. Why run our heads into the wall, right?”

*Joyce is referring to the government funding bill the US House voted on the day we spoke.

ML: “But now like [Senate Minority Leader Chuck] Schumer…”

DJ: “He had the thing for like two years on his f*cking desk and didn’t do anything, right?”

ML: “Yeah, fair.”

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DJ: “So, we’ll work on something, but it’s just a matter of wait til we’re in a position to do something.”

ML: “Because I heard…”

Rep. Andy Harris: “Say no to marijuana!”

Joyce and Laslo laugh.

ML: “Mr. Andy Harris, of course he says that!”

They laugh.

ICYMI — Harris talks to Ask a Pol…

ML: “How do you know we’re talking about it?”

Harris: “C’mon!”

ML: “You want a toke?”

They laugh harder.

ML: “But, I was just talking to [Rep. Lou] Correa and he said that their Psychedelics Task Force has already met a couple times.”

Laslo laughs.

ML: “It feels that’s taking lead.”

DJ: “I think they’re clearer. It’s, you know, they’re mixing — it’s tough enough for cannabis. And I get the psychedelic argument — you know, with help to the men and women in the service and God bless if it is, for addictions and all kinds of things too — but it’s been hard enough drive this bus uphill with the cannabis issues.”

ML: “So keep them separated as much as possible?”

DJ: “Correct. I’ve been asked on a number of occasions to be part of it, but I just steer clear of it because guys like him.”

Joyce points over his shoulder, where Andy Harris just entered the Capitol.

ML: “Do you think you guys might have a window to bring it up or do you think your part is just so…?

DJ: “Well, I think after we get through reconciliation and things start to calm down, we get back to regular order.”

ML: “Yeah?”

DJ: “Might be the right time.”

ML: “Yup. I’ll be watching.”

Joyce starts heading up the Capitol steps.

ML: “Appreciate ya!”

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No questions asked. Just ping us.Nicolae Viorel Butler contributed to this report.

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